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		<title>By: AlienBaby</title>
		<link>http://whatthehellisthis.net/2009/05/18/just-another-phase-of-finding/#comment-420</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 00:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fun With Blog Stats: on a much lighter note, you guys wouldn&#039;t believe how many hits I&#039;ve gotten from Google -- thanks to the title of my last post -- by people searching for &quot;what to put up ass&quot; and &quot;fun things to put up ass.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fun With Blog Stats: on a much lighter note, you guys wouldn&#8217;t believe how many hits I&#8217;ve gotten from Google &#8212; thanks to the title of my last post &#8212; by people searching for &#8220;what to put up ass&#8221; and &#8220;fun things to put up ass.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: AlienBaby</title>
		<link>http://whatthehellisthis.net/2009/05/18/just-another-phase-of-finding/#comment-419</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 17:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[R: I wish I&#039;d just skipped the cafe yesterday, I was doing better than fine until then! What Rick does or doesn&#039;t do has less of an effect on me somehow, I was taking that as it comes, but Dex...he&#039;s more that type I can&#039;t seem to get over, though maybe I should.  I was simply more vulnerable to his judgment. (If you wanted to get all psychobabble on me, I guess you could say I&#039;m still trying to win Daddy&#039;s approval.)

B: Hey, hi. Thanks for responding to my  question! And for wanting to send me money. :) I was actually talking about two DIFFERENT guys, a super-young brainy one and a slightly older (than him) stoner guy, with whom I had that fun evening. 

While I&#039;m still here in this cow town, though, the last thing I want to do is find Mr. Right. I was just open to enjoying Mr. Right Now. (Unless of course the former wanted to follow me all over creation. Actually, &quot;Stoner Rick&quot; does want to travel overseas, but that doesn&#039;t mean we&#039;re going to take off together.)

All: I suppose part of me is relieved not to have to go through the whole buzzkiller business of explaining my physiology to some casual guy and what I have to do first and what he had better not do. Sometimes that&#039;s enough to send guys away...a sleeve at least is uncomplicated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>R: I wish I&#8217;d just skipped the cafe yesterday, I was doing better than fine until then! What Rick does or doesn&#8217;t do has less of an effect on me somehow, I was taking that as it comes, but Dex&#8230;he&#8217;s more that type I can&#8217;t seem to get over, though maybe I should.  I was simply more vulnerable to his judgment. (If you wanted to get all psychobabble on me, I guess you could say I&#8217;m still trying to win Daddy&#8217;s approval.)</p>
<p>B: Hey, hi. Thanks for responding to my  question! And for wanting to send me money. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I was actually talking about two DIFFERENT guys, a super-young brainy one and a slightly older (than him) stoner guy, with whom I had that fun evening. </p>
<p>While I&#8217;m still here in this cow town, though, the last thing I want to do is find Mr. Right. I was just open to enjoying Mr. Right Now. (Unless of course the former wanted to follow me all over creation. Actually, &#8220;Stoner Rick&#8221; does want to travel overseas, but that doesn&#8217;t mean we&#8217;re going to take off together.)</p>
<p>All: I suppose part of me is relieved not to have to go through the whole buzzkiller business of explaining my physiology to some casual guy and what I have to do first and what he had better not do. Sometimes that&#8217;s enough to send guys away&#8230;a sleeve at least is uncomplicated.</p>
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		<title>By: bluemorpho3</title>
		<link>http://whatthehellisthis.net/2009/05/18/just-another-phase-of-finding/#comment-418</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 11:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[things are still very busy here, only little time...
first, it&#039;s a problem for me to donate non-anonymously, maybe you understand. I can offer to send cash to a PO box.
second, of course I want to read your travel notes from Italy!
third, great that you had a good time &amp; sorry that something embarrassed you later. I&#039;m not sure I understand 100% of it, that&#039;s the language barrier, without very thorough reading it can be difficult. But from what I understand, I would say...take it easy...which is always easily said, I know...maybe you could see it as kind of a training, a preparation for the moment when it really will get &quot;serious&quot;? This time it only looked good for a while, another time it can be different. You could prepare to surf a bigger wave next time - this depends not only on you but also on the wave ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>things are still very busy here, only little time&#8230;<br />
first, it&#8217;s a problem for me to donate non-anonymously, maybe you understand. I can offer to send cash to a PO box.<br />
second, of course I want to read your travel notes from Italy!<br />
third, great that you had a good time &amp; sorry that something embarrassed you later. I&#8217;m not sure I understand 100% of it, that&#8217;s the language barrier, without very thorough reading it can be difficult. But from what I understand, I would say&#8230;take it easy&#8230;which is always easily said, I know&#8230;maybe you could see it as kind of a training, a preparation for the moment when it really will get &#8220;serious&#8221;? This time it only looked good for a while, another time it can be different. You could prepare to surf a bigger wave next time &#8211; this depends not only on you but also on the wave <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: russthelibrarian</title>
		<link>http://whatthehellisthis.net/2009/05/18/just-another-phase-of-finding/#comment-417</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 08:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[Don&#039;t listen to me, I&#039;m inebriate after coming back from downtown on Saturday night, hedonist that I am, following the family wedding I attended this afternoon.]

There&#039;s no reason to feel bad.  You may feel taken down a notch or what, but really this is OK.  I haven&#039;t heard the term &quot;cougar&quot;, so I don&#039;t take the reference, though I&#039;ll infer from context that it denotes an older woman looking for younger men.  I wasn&#039;t there, so what can I say?  Well, since I&#039;m not stopping myself....

If he said that, it&#039;s a totally uncool thing to say, so fuck him (and you know the way I mean).  What, suddenly he&#039;s Mr In-Demand?  Fine, then.  Odds are, though, he&#039;s going home to his penis sleeve and a bottle of baby oil--and why should that be otherwise, if that&#039;s the way he&#039;s going to behave?  Go ahead, wish that upon him, if it makes you feel better.  I&#039;d say it&#039;s appropriate.  given the circumstances.  Like I say, you aren&#039;t too old to take an interest in him, there&#039;s nothing to be guilty about here.

If he didn&#039;t say that, and was just indulging a customer who may have spoken against you?  Well, that would explain why he insisted on saying something nice to you before you left.  He may have realized he was being insensitive, tried to over-compensate.  I don&#039;t know, but I could see it.

You don&#039;t have to let him off the hook, though.  If the whole experience left you feeling cold, then that&#039;s totally valid.  Maybe he picks up on that, maybe he won&#039;t--but you don&#039;t have to let that dictate your reaction.  Your emotional reaction is very real.

Glad to hear that you&#039;re taking it in stride, though.  Rejection, on whatever scale, is always hard to take.  Comes with the territory, of being out there and playing.

[OK, *one* more Red Hook....]

One last thing I want to mention:  just because you had a bad time of it this time around, doesn&#039;t necessarily mean that you misinterpreted what went on before.  I&#039;ll point to this last night out that you had:  sometimes what happens in the moment is all-defining.  Well, I say it&#039;s *always* all-defining, we just normally don&#039;t think of it that way.  But your initial encounter with Dex and him telling you that chicks don&#039;t go for philosophy majors life himself...that&#039;s comparable to the experience you had with Stoner Rick at the pool table.  That interaction was what it was, and the moment for that won&#039;t necessarily repeat.  You shouldn&#039;t assume that any given encounter will define everything that is to come.  Life, and other people, usually aren&#039;t that simple.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[Don't listen to me, I'm inebriate after coming back from downtown on Saturday night, hedonist that I am, following the family wedding I attended this afternoon.]</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no reason to feel bad.  You may feel taken down a notch or what, but really this is OK.  I haven&#8217;t heard the term &#8220;cougar&#8221;, so I don&#8217;t take the reference, though I&#8217;ll infer from context that it denotes an older woman looking for younger men.  I wasn&#8217;t there, so what can I say?  Well, since I&#8217;m not stopping myself&#8230;.</p>
<p>If he said that, it&#8217;s a totally uncool thing to say, so fuck him (and you know the way I mean).  What, suddenly he&#8217;s Mr In-Demand?  Fine, then.  Odds are, though, he&#8217;s going home to his penis sleeve and a bottle of baby oil&#8211;and why should that be otherwise, if that&#8217;s the way he&#8217;s going to behave?  Go ahead, wish that upon him, if it makes you feel better.  I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s appropriate.  given the circumstances.  Like I say, you aren&#8217;t too old to take an interest in him, there&#8217;s nothing to be guilty about here.</p>
<p>If he didn&#8217;t say that, and was just indulging a customer who may have spoken against you?  Well, that would explain why he insisted on saying something nice to you before you left.  He may have realized he was being insensitive, tried to over-compensate.  I don&#8217;t know, but I could see it.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t have to let him off the hook, though.  If the whole experience left you feeling cold, then that&#8217;s totally valid.  Maybe he picks up on that, maybe he won&#8217;t&#8211;but you don&#8217;t have to let that dictate your reaction.  Your emotional reaction is very real.</p>
<p>Glad to hear that you&#8217;re taking it in stride, though.  Rejection, on whatever scale, is always hard to take.  Comes with the territory, of being out there and playing.</p>
<p>[OK, *one* more Red Hook....]</p>
<p>One last thing I want to mention:  just because you had a bad time of it this time around, doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean that you misinterpreted what went on before.  I&#8217;ll point to this last night out that you had:  sometimes what happens in the moment is all-defining.  Well, I say it&#8217;s *always* all-defining, we just normally don&#8217;t think of it that way.  But your initial encounter with Dex and him telling you that chicks don&#8217;t go for philosophy majors life himself&#8230;that&#8217;s comparable to the experience you had with Stoner Rick at the pool table.  That interaction was what it was, and the moment for that won&#8217;t necessarily repeat.  You shouldn&#8217;t assume that any given encounter will define everything that is to come.  Life, and other people, usually aren&#8217;t that simple.</p>
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		<title>By: AlienBaby</title>
		<link>http://whatthehellisthis.net/2009/05/18/just-another-phase-of-finding/#comment-416</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 03:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#039;“It’s a fight,” says Eileen, “at the foundation, in the arenas that are most important to me, my relationships with other people…how I read people and how I read where we are...&quot;&#039; (from Carol Gilligan) For women, what we pick up or don&#039;t is considered almost a survival skill.

In retrospect &quot;cougar&quot; doesn&#039;t seem like a word D would even use...I think it was the sarcastic regular who said it (who is himself older). It might even have been in reference to the high-heeled Cher-like woman who had just been at the counter. I thought she looked hot. I didn&#039;t know why the number 41 would be coming up, though, so my ears pricked up and I started thinking that at least part of it was about me. 

But I don&#039;t understand why D wouldn&#039;t let me then just sneak out (after I wrote the above) and instead called out to me and followed me to the end of the counter with some parting niceties as I tried to leave. 

Well, like I said, there you have it, more wasted energy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;“It’s a fight,” says Eileen, “at the foundation, in the arenas that are most important to me, my relationships with other people…how I read people and how I read where we are&#8230;&#8221;&#8216; (from Carol Gilligan) For women, what we pick up or don&#8217;t is considered almost a survival skill.</p>
<p>In retrospect &#8220;cougar&#8221; doesn&#8217;t seem like a word D would even use&#8230;I think it was the sarcastic regular who said it (who is himself older). It might even have been in reference to the high-heeled Cher-like woman who had just been at the counter. I thought she looked hot. I didn&#8217;t know why the number 41 would be coming up, though, so my ears pricked up and I started thinking that at least part of it was about me. </p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t understand why D wouldn&#8217;t let me then just sneak out (after I wrote the above) and instead called out to me and followed me to the end of the counter with some parting niceties as I tried to leave. </p>
<p>Well, like I said, there you have it, more wasted energy.</p>
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		<title>By: purposepowercoaching</title>
		<link>http://whatthehellisthis.net/2009/05/18/just-another-phase-of-finding/#comment-415</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 02:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sorry that happened A.B.  And, when you talked about feeling embarrassed for misreading things, I got the sense that you made yourself responsible for knowing how he felt -- in other words, that if you don&#039;t read other people&#039;s emotions correctly, you&#039;re not okay.  Does this land with you?

I also find myself irritated when people use the expression &quot;cougars.&quot;  Although that may be simply because I really enjoy older women.  But I digress.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry that happened A.B.  And, when you talked about feeling embarrassed for misreading things, I got the sense that you made yourself responsible for knowing how he felt &#8212; in other words, that if you don&#8217;t read other people&#8217;s emotions correctly, you&#8217;re not okay.  Does this land with you?</p>
<p>I also find myself irritated when people use the expression &#8220;cougars.&#8221;  Although that may be simply because I really enjoy older women.  But I digress.</p>
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		<title>By: AlienBaby</title>
		<link>http://whatthehellisthis.net/2009/05/18/just-another-phase-of-finding/#comment-414</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 00:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Taken Down A Notch: stopped by Dex&#039;s cafe on my way back from downtown...boy am I glad I didn&#039;t put any eggs in that basket. He acted as if our previous conversation had never happened...then I heard a couple of the employees including D talking quietly with another regular...I heard something about &quot;cougars&quot; and &quot;41.&quot; Another young man who works here part-time said &quot;I&#039;m all about the cougars,&quot; and not too much later plopped himself down on the couch next to me to chat, god bless his heart. I felt a vague pervasive embarrassment, but nothing near the burning humiliation I&#039;m used to feeling under similar circumstances. 

Just feel a bit stupid for misreading things so utterly and talking a big talk about them here. 

But I fear I&#039;m wasting far too much energy on this boy stuff and losing momentum...didn&#039;t I say I get derailed easily? What was that business about going to Europe again?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taken Down A Notch: stopped by Dex&#8217;s cafe on my way back from downtown&#8230;boy am I glad I didn&#8217;t put any eggs in that basket. He acted as if our previous conversation had never happened&#8230;then I heard a couple of the employees including D talking quietly with another regular&#8230;I heard something about &#8220;cougars&#8221; and &#8220;41.&#8221; Another young man who works here part-time said &#8220;I&#8217;m all about the cougars,&#8221; and not too much later plopped himself down on the couch next to me to chat, god bless his heart. I felt a vague pervasive embarrassment, but nothing near the burning humiliation I&#8217;m used to feeling under similar circumstances. </p>
<p>Just feel a bit stupid for misreading things so utterly and talking a big talk about them here. </p>
<p>But I fear I&#8217;m wasting far too much energy on this boy stuff and losing momentum&#8230;didn&#8217;t I say I get derailed easily? What was that business about going to Europe again?</p>
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		<title>By: AlienBaby</title>
		<link>http://whatthehellisthis.net/2009/05/18/just-another-phase-of-finding/#comment-413</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 05:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, he&#039;ll have to be AROUND for me to dally with him. We didn&#039;t even exchange phone numbers, and I haven&#039;t seen him since. Sure hope he got home OK!  Otherwise I am, again surprisingly, not worried. There are no eggs in that basket. He is, after all, a major stoner, and they&#039;re famously unreliable! Great for kicks but don&#039;t entrust him with the mortgage. Not to cast any aspersions...he is whatever he is, and I don&#039;t expect him to be otherwise. That&#039;s the beauty of it all. I just hope he&#039;s not being &quot;the girl&quot; and getting all worked up or fretting about the other night, or else assuming I&#039;m making assumptions. If nothing else I wish I could reassure him about my intentions.

I bet if you really wanted to find a playmate (OOMO aside) you could post an NSA ad on Craigslist or the Stranger and draw in some freaky pagan gal. The ones I&#039;ve known are open to all kinds of men/women and absolute libertines. Write something funny and disarming like &quot;6 foot 200-lb mildly autistic Indian who scares small children seeking hedonistic geek girl who loves to receive.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, he&#8217;ll have to be AROUND for me to dally with him. We didn&#8217;t even exchange phone numbers, and I haven&#8217;t seen him since. Sure hope he got home OK!  Otherwise I am, again surprisingly, not worried. There are no eggs in that basket. He is, after all, a major stoner, and they&#8217;re famously unreliable! Great for kicks but don&#8217;t entrust him with the mortgage. Not to cast any aspersions&#8230;he is whatever he is, and I don&#8217;t expect him to be otherwise. That&#8217;s the beauty of it all. I just hope he&#8217;s not being &#8220;the girl&#8221; and getting all worked up or fretting about the other night, or else assuming I&#8217;m making assumptions. If nothing else I wish I could reassure him about my intentions.</p>
<p>I bet if you really wanted to find a playmate (OOMO aside) you could post an NSA ad on Craigslist or the Stranger and draw in some freaky pagan gal. The ones I&#8217;ve known are open to all kinds of men/women and absolute libertines. Write something funny and disarming like &#8220;6 foot 200-lb mildly autistic Indian who scares small children seeking hedonistic geek girl who loves to receive.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: russthelibrarian</title>
		<link>http://whatthehellisthis.net/2009/05/18/just-another-phase-of-finding/#comment-412</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 16:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I keep telling you--you&#039;re NOT too old to be dallying with Stoner Rick.  If you&#039;re feeling ancient, the best cure for that, of course, is three orgasms in quick succession (not counting his, if at all).  Keep some Durex with you at all times, just in case.

I&#039;ve been saying for years that sex is an adult form of play.  Think about it:  there&#039;s toys, role playing, costumes and dress-up, plenty of fantasy.  And a lot of laughing joyously, if done properly.  I think it satisfies whatever childlike need we have.  &quot;Go outside and play&quot;--when did that become old hat?  I certainly lament that no one will play with me, even for an afternoon.

I remember something in PLAYBOY a few years ago that I really liked.  Reader submissions to complete the thought, &quot;Sex is...&quot;  Two of them have really stayed with me.  One was, &quot;Sex is comparing notes.&quot;  That&#039;s charming (armchair academic that I am).  The other was &quot;Sex is power...made playful.&quot;  I love that one even more.  (I&#039;d better, since the Object Of My Obsessions works as a dominatrix, among other things.  No, not my kick, for the record, but you&#039;re damn right I&#039;m going to establish a safe word.)

So play with your power.  Never forget, you have something he wants.  And he has something that you want.  The intersection of those two desires is....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep telling you&#8211;you&#8217;re NOT too old to be dallying with Stoner Rick.  If you&#8217;re feeling ancient, the best cure for that, of course, is three orgasms in quick succession (not counting his, if at all).  Keep some Durex with you at all times, just in case.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been saying for years that sex is an adult form of play.  Think about it:  there&#8217;s toys, role playing, costumes and dress-up, plenty of fantasy.  And a lot of laughing joyously, if done properly.  I think it satisfies whatever childlike need we have.  &#8220;Go outside and play&#8221;&#8211;when did that become old hat?  I certainly lament that no one will play with me, even for an afternoon.</p>
<p>I remember something in PLAYBOY a few years ago that I really liked.  Reader submissions to complete the thought, &#8220;Sex is&#8230;&#8221;  Two of them have really stayed with me.  One was, &#8220;Sex is comparing notes.&#8221;  That&#8217;s charming (armchair academic that I am).  The other was &#8220;Sex is power&#8230;made playful.&#8221;  I love that one even more.  (I&#8217;d better, since the Object Of My Obsessions works as a dominatrix, among other things.  No, not my kick, for the record, but you&#8217;re damn right I&#8217;m going to establish a safe word.)</p>
<p>So play with your power.  Never forget, you have something he wants.  And he has something that you want.  The intersection of those two desires is&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: AlienBaby</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 03:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[p.s. Excessive narcissism and vanity dictate that I crow about the fact that as we were walking to the bar and I said something about being ancient, he said &quot;But we&#039;re about the same age, right?&quot; and I said &quot;How old are you?&quot; and he said &quot;Twenty-eight,&quot; and I said, &quot;Sure...whatever!&quot; and started snickering. For the rest of the night. He knows I&#039;m older than he is, but I didn&#039;t have the heart to break it to him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>p.s. Excessive narcissism and vanity dictate that I crow about the fact that as we were walking to the bar and I said something about being ancient, he said &#8220;But we&#8217;re about the same age, right?&#8221; and I said &#8220;How old are you?&#8221; and he said &#8220;Twenty-eight,&#8221; and I said, &#8220;Sure&#8230;whatever!&#8221; and started snickering. For the rest of the night. He knows I&#8217;m older than he is, but I didn&#8217;t have the heart to break it to him.</p>
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